This is the tenth anniversary of Design Matters and to mark the anniversary we're replaying some favorite shows from the archive. This interview with Clement Mok was recorded in February 2013. The new season begins on October 12th.
Debbie talks to designer Clement Mok about the early days of Apple computer, the heady days of the software bubble, and the joys of working for Steve Jobs. "We were called bozos, we were incompetent, there was nothing that we did that was up to his standards."